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		<title>By: Laurence S</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/absolute-positioning-vs-floats/comment-page-1/#comment-31949</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurence S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each to his own; I think both has a place in web design. Absolute sure does make laying out page easier though...great article as always!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each to his own; I think both has a place in web design. Absolute sure does make laying out page easier though&#8230;great article as always!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel R</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/absolute-positioning-vs-floats/comment-page-1/#comment-31833</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot man, gr8 article</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/absolute-positioning-vs-floats/comment-page-1/#comment-28117</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rule:  If elements should not interact, use absolute positioning, if they should, use floats.    - Absolute positioning Vs. floats - CSS &amp; (X)HTML - Kilian Valkhof   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rule:  If elements should not interact, use absolute positioning, if they should, use floats.    &#8211; Absolute positioning Vs. floats &#8211; CSS &amp; (X)HTML &#8211; Kilian Valkhof   [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quelle méthode choisir pour positionner un élément ? &#171; [ethyde.fr]</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/absolute-positioning-vs-floats/comment-page-1/#comment-17036</link>
		<dc:creator>Quelle méthode choisir pour positionner un élément ? &#171; [ethyde.fr]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Source : Absolute positioning Vs. floats [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Absolute positioning Vs. floats • CSS &#38; (X)HTML • Kilian Valkhof &#124; CSS Tutorials - CSSHelper.net</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/absolute-positioning-vs-floats/comment-page-1/#comment-14634</link>
		<dc:creator>Absolute positioning Vs. floats • CSS &#38; (X)HTML • Kilian Valkhof &#124; CSS Tutorials - CSSHelper.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Absolute Positioning - A Brief Introduction &#124; website design &#124; usability and accessibility &#124; social media &#124; online marketing &#124; fog of eternity</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/absolute-positioning-vs-floats/comment-page-1/#comment-11550</link>
		<dc:creator>Absolute Positioning - A Brief Introduction &#124; website design &#124; usability and accessibility &#124; social media &#124; online marketing &#124; fog of eternity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Absolute Positioning vs Floats - Kilian Valkhof [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BlueBoden</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/absolute-positioning-vs-floats/comment-page-1/#comment-10590</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueBoden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, you can also create fully fluid 3 column layouts with AP, so there really is no reason to be so ignorant twords the use of AP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, you can also create fully fluid 3 column layouts with AP, so there really is no reason to be so ignorant twords the use of AP</p>
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		<title>By: Rafforziamo le nostre idee sul float &#124; Italian webdesign</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rafforziamo le nostre idee sul float &#124; Italian webdesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ABSOLUTE POSITIONING VS. FLOAT [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Absolute positioning Vs. floats &#124; CrazyLeaf Design Blog</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/absolute-positioning-vs-floats/comment-page-1/#comment-9631</link>
		<dc:creator>Absolute positioning Vs. floats &#124; CrazyLeaf Design Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] differences between absolute positioning and floats when used for layout, and when to use which. View source    //default banner house ad url clicksor_default_url = &#039;&#039;; clicksor_banner_border = &#039;#f8f7f0&#039;; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Arjan Eising</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arjan Eising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment is an addition to Jonathan his comment. I only use absolute or fixed positions for elements I want to keep in a logical order on my website. Your search form, for example, would be at the bottom of the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hypertext Markup Language&quot;&gt;HTML&lt;/abbr&gt; if I coded it.

An important addition to your article: do not hide skiplinks and hidden &#039;extra&#039; information for usage by screen/braille readers, by using &lt;code&gt;display:none&lt;/code&gt;, but with &lt;code&gt;position:absolute&lt;/code&gt; and &lt;code&gt;left:-9999em&lt;/code&gt; or similar. That&#039;s because screen/braille readers do not &#039;display&#039; information hidden by &lt;code&gt;display:none&lt;/code&gt; or &lt;code&gt;visibility:hidden&lt;/code&gt;.

By the way, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/english/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dutch Web Guidelines&lt;/a&gt; have one that is quite odd: &#039;put the most important content of your page at the top of your &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hypertext Markup Language&quot;&gt;HTML&lt;/abbr&gt;&#039;. It can be interpreted as &#039;put your navigation at the bottom&#039;. With absolute position you get that navigation back on top again. As said, a quite odd guideline. (Browse to some of the ministry websites to see that one in practice.)

Cedric: There are some mayor bugs in how &lt;abbr title=&quot;Internet Explorer&quot;&gt;IE&lt;/abbr&gt; (both 6 and 7) handles floats. Absolute positioning can be &lt;em&gt;extremely useful&lt;/em&gt; in some cases, as pointed out in the article,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment is an addition to Jonathan his comment. I only use absolute or fixed positions for elements I want to keep in a logical order on my website. Your search form, for example, would be at the bottom of the <abbr title="Hypertext Markup Language">HTML</abbr> if I coded it.</p>
<p>An important addition to your article: do not hide skiplinks and hidden &#8216;extra&#8217; information for usage by screen/braille readers, by using <code>display:none</code>, but with <code>position:absolute</code> and <code>left:-9999em</code> or similar. That&#8217;s because screen/braille readers do not &#8216;display&#8217; information hidden by <code>display:none</code> or <code>visibility:hidden</code>.</p>
<p>By the way, the <a href="http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/english/" rel="nofollow">Dutch Web Guidelines</a> have one that is quite odd: &#8216;put the most important content of your page at the top of your <abbr title="Hypertext Markup Language">HTML</abbr>&#8216;. It can be interpreted as &#8216;put your navigation at the bottom&#8217;. With absolute position you get that navigation back on top again. As said, a quite odd guideline. (Browse to some of the ministry websites to see that one in practice.)</p>
<p>Cedric: There are some mayor bugs in how <abbr title="Internet Explorer">IE</abbr> (both 6 and 7) handles floats. Absolute positioning can be <em>extremely useful</em> in some cases, as pointed out in the article,</p>
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