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	<title>Comments on: Forward thinking image copyrighting</title>
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		<title>By: Kilian Valkhof</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/forward-thinking-image-copyrighting/comment-page-1/#comment-15230</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilian Valkhof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V T K, you&#039;re right! The CSS for this got removed when I implemented this theme. I&#039;ll add it back later :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V T K, you&#8217;re right! The CSS for this got removed when I implemented this theme. I&#8217;ll add it back later :)</p>
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		<title>By: V T K</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/forward-thinking-image-copyrighting/comment-page-1/#comment-15229</link>
		<dc:creator>V T K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The copyright notice on the image shows on this page in both IE7 and FF (i.e it is not hidden). Is it me only?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The copyright notice on the image shows on this page in both IE7 and FF (i.e it is not hidden). Is it me only?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Chaplin</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/forward-thinking-image-copyrighting/comment-page-1/#comment-4792</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Chaplin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should&#039;ve known you&#039;d have something to say about Derek&#039;s rather crufty and unsemantic method, Kilian. ;) Nice work. I can&#039;t wait for IE &lt;8 to be ancient history on the public Web... Maybe in five years? I&#039;ll keep hoping.

I have another objection to this technique, and it&#039;s that by adding the copyright info as a &quot;footer&quot; to the image, it&#039;s trivially easy to strip it out and use the image illegally. It also adds a not-insignificant amount of bytes to each and every file it&#039;s applied to, which doesn&#039;t sit well with me (even if it&#039;s added dynamically, it&#039;s still inflating the page-size for all users, most of whom probably wouldn&#039;t steal the images).

I suppose having a big (and probably unexpected) copyright message appearing at the bottom of an image one had stolen would deter most casual copyright infringers, but not, I suspect, anyone with sufficient determination.

If an image is really important enough to the author/owner to protect it in such a way, then I am of the opinion that there are far more elegant and harder-to-circumvent solutions (subtle watermarking, steganographical storage of identifying information such as the user&#039;s IP, etc. - combined with a clear deterrent-warning that images carry such protection).

In any case, hooray for de-crufting it! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should&#8217;ve known you&#8217;d have something to say about Derek&#8217;s rather crufty and unsemantic method, Kilian. ;) Nice work. I can&#8217;t wait for IE &lt;8 to be ancient history on the public Web&#8230; Maybe in five years? I&#8217;ll keep hoping.</p>
<p>I have another objection to this technique, and it&#8217;s that by adding the copyright info as a &#8220;footer&#8221; to the image, it&#8217;s trivially easy to strip it out and use the image illegally. It also adds a not-insignificant amount of bytes to each and every file it&#8217;s applied to, which doesn&#8217;t sit well with me (even if it&#8217;s added dynamically, it&#8217;s still inflating the page-size for all users, most of whom probably wouldn&#8217;t steal the images).</p>
<p>I suppose having a big (and probably unexpected) copyright message appearing at the bottom of an image one had stolen would deter most casual copyright infringers, but not, I suspect, anyone with sufficient determination.</p>
<p>If an image is really important enough to the author/owner to protect it in such a way, then I am of the opinion that there are far more elegant and harder-to-circumvent solutions (subtle watermarking, steganographical storage of identifying information such as the user&#8217;s IP, etc. &#8211; combined with a clear deterrent-warning that images carry such protection).</p>
<p>In any case, hooray for de-crufting it! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: RUDEWORKS</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/forward-thinking-image-copyrighting/comment-page-1/#comment-4623</link>
		<dc:creator>RUDEWORKS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (RSS)   Curiosa manera de incluir una nota informativa sobre la propiedad de una imagen y ocultarla mediante CSS. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cezary Tomczyk</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/forward-thinking-image-copyrighting/comment-page-1/#comment-4557</link>
		<dc:creator>Cezary Tomczyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s safer is to use style .copyrightimage {position:relative;margin-bottom:-76px;background:#fff} and html  then this will work in IE6 and 7. Unfortunately, have to additional div element :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s safer is to use style .copyrightimage {position:relative;margin-bottom:-76px;background:#fff} and html  then this will work in IE6 and 7. Unfortunately, have to additional div element :/</p>
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		<title>By: Kilian Valkhof</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/forward-thinking-image-copyrighting/comment-page-1/#comment-4551</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilian Valkhof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re absolutely right. I though I added that in the article as well but I obviously forgot. Thanks! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right. I though I added that in the article as well but I obviously forgot. Thanks! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert O'Rourke</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/css-xhtml/forward-thinking-image-copyrighting/comment-page-1/#comment-4550</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert O'Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a nice idea but there&#039;s another drawback you haven&#039;t mentioned: the element immediately following the image has to be a certain height otherwise when you shrink the text or have a shorter paragraph/caption it becomes visible.

You&#039;d need either a fixed height &lt;code&gt;&lt;/code&gt; around the image with overflow: hidden; or set min-height on the &lt;code&gt;img + *&lt;/code&gt; element.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a nice idea but there&#8217;s another drawback you haven&#8217;t mentioned: the element immediately following the image has to be a certain height otherwise when you shrink the text or have a shorter paragraph/caption it becomes visible.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d need either a fixed height <code></code> around the image with overflow: hidden; or set min-height on the <code>img + *</code> element.</p>
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