Comments on: 6 steps to overcome being seen as the kid with a copy of photoshop http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/life/6-steps-to-overcome-being-seen-as-the-kid-with-a-copy-of-photoshop/ Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:05:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: xmariachi http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/life/6-steps-to-overcome-being-seen-as-the-kid-with-a-copy-of-photoshop/#comment-9031 xmariachi Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:15:19 +0000 http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/design/6-steps-to-overcome-being-seen-as-the-kid-with-a-copy-of-photoshop/#comment-9031 Nice article Kilian. 1, 3 and 6 look to me the most valuable ones - since if you don't do like this, *then* you're done, or at least will suffer innecessarily. Nice article Kilian.
1, 3 and 6 look to me the most valuable ones - since if you don’t do like this, *then* you’re done, or at least will suffer innecessarily.

]]> By: Stijn http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/life/6-steps-to-overcome-being-seen-as-the-kid-with-a-copy-of-photoshop/#comment-4651 Stijn Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:42:38 +0000 http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/design/6-steps-to-overcome-being-seen-as-the-kid-with-a-copy-of-photoshop/#comment-4651 Hobbists, Egor? Surely not Hobbits? ;) Hobbists, Egor? Surely not Hobbits? ;)

]]> By: Arjan http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/life/6-steps-to-overcome-being-seen-as-the-kid-with-a-copy-of-photoshop/#comment-4032 Arjan Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:38:57 +0000 http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/design/6-steps-to-overcome-being-seen-as-the-kid-with-a-copy-of-photoshop/#comment-4032 Cool article, very recognizable :P Of course the working hours isn't a rule too. I sometimes have clients who want to start up something for next to their jobs, so then everything is o.k. I think the best tip is to not-talk technically, but in the needs of the client. So how <em>your</em> work can improve <em>their</em> business etc. Cool article, very recognizable :P Of course the working hours isn’t a rule too. I sometimes have clients who want to start up something for next to their jobs, so then everything is o.k.

I think the best tip is to not-talk technically, but in the needs of the client. So how your work can improve their business etc.

]]> By: Egor Kloos http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/life/6-steps-to-overcome-being-seen-as-the-kid-with-a-copy-of-photoshop/#comment-4028 Egor Kloos Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:24:32 +0000 http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/design/6-steps-to-overcome-being-seen-as-the-kid-with-a-copy-of-photoshop/#comment-4028 All good tips, never discuss what you actually do but what you actually deliver. If a client wants something changed, bill them for the overtime. Those that work more hours than they're paid are called hobbists. All good tips, never discuss what you actually do but what you actually deliver. If a client wants something changed, bill them for the overtime. Those that work more hours than they’re paid are called hobbists.

]]> By: Luke L http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/life/6-steps-to-overcome-being-seen-as-the-kid-with-a-copy-of-photoshop/#comment-4027 Luke L Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:23:39 +0000 http://kilianvalkhof.com/2008/design/6-steps-to-overcome-being-seen-as-the-kid-with-a-copy-of-photoshop/#comment-4027 I'm just starting to shed the neighbour web developer skin and branching out into proper freelance work. I think the hardest part overall is the money as you mentioned. A lot of the referrals I get from past clients have come to me because I did work on the cheap, but now I can charge 5 to 10 times the price I used to. Sometimes this shocks them but once I've shown them my portfolio and what I can do for them they're usually willing to pay that bit more. I think having left school and moving to University, clients perception of me has changed as well. I’m just starting to shed the neighbour web developer skin and branching out into proper freelance work. I think the hardest part overall is the money as you mentioned. A lot of the referrals I get from past clients have come to me because I did work on the cheap, but now I can charge 5 to 10 times the price I used to. Sometimes this shocks them but once I’ve shown them my portfolio and what I can do for them they’re usually willing to pay that bit more. I think having left school and moving to University, clients perception of me has changed as well.

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