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	<title>Comments on: Pixel perfect forms, SenCSs 0.6 released</title>
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		<title>By: Hitgeist.com migrated from ERB to HAML and Compass+Blueprint &#124; Viktors Rotanovs</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2009/sencss/pixel-perfect-forms-sencss-06-released/comment-page-1/#comment-23188</link>
		<dc:creator>Hitgeist.com migrated from ERB to HAML and Compass+Blueprint &#124; Viktors Rotanovs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There are several CSS frameworks available to implement grids, most famous ones being Blueprint (which is used by sites like QuantCast), 960.gs, and Yahoo UI Grids. There are also others, like this high-quality small CSS framework. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There are several CSS frameworks available to implement grids, most famous ones being Blueprint (which is used by sites like QuantCast), 960.gs, and Yahoo UI Grids. There are also others, like this high-quality small CSS framework. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kilian Valkhof</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2009/sencss/pixel-perfect-forms-sencss-06-released/comment-page-1/#comment-14373</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilian Valkhof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt, Thanks for you comment! I decided to leave out &lt;hr&gt; styling because it&#039;s quite impossible to style consistently cross browser. I also think that with CSS, there isn&#039;t actually a valid usecase for them anymore.

Nevertheless I will add it to the list of sencss 0.7 and see if I can find a way to make it work :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt, Thanks for you comment! I decided to leave out &lt;hr&gt; styling because it&#8217;s quite impossible to style consistently cross browser. I also think that with CSS, there isn&#8217;t actually a valid usecase for them anymore.</p>
<p>Nevertheless I will add it to the list of sencss 0.7 and see if I can find a way to make it work :)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2009/sencss/pixel-perfect-forms-sencss-06-released/comment-page-1/#comment-14044</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wanted to say: horizontal rule (why &quot;&quot; did not appear?). sorry for double comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wanted to say: horizontal rule (why &#8220;&#8221; did not appear?). sorry for double comment</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2009/sencss/pixel-perfect-forms-sencss-06-released/comment-page-1/#comment-14043</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> breaks the rhythm, maybe it needs to be fixed.
awesome work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>breaks the rhythm, maybe it needs to be fixed.<br />
awesome work!</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Paul Posma</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2009/sencss/pixel-perfect-forms-sencss-06-released/comment-page-1/#comment-13828</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Paul Posma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some suggestions for a print stylesheet to use with this:

a:link,
a:visited 
{
   color: black;
   background: transparent;
   font-weight: bold;
   text-decoration: none;
}

a::after 
{
	content: &quot; (&quot; attr(href) &quot;)&quot;;
	font-size: 90%;
	font-weight: normal;
}

div#content a[href^=&quot;/&quot;]:after 
{
	content: &quot; (http://blaat.com&quot; attr(href) &quot;)&quot;;
}

abbr,
acronym
{
	border-bottom: none;
	font-variant: normal;
	font-style: italic;
}

abbr:after,
acronym:after
{
	content: &quot; (&quot; attr(title) &quot;)&quot;;
	font-size: 90%;
	font-style: normal;
}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some suggestions for a print stylesheet to use with this:</p>
<p>a:link,<br />
a:visited<br />
{<br />
   color: black;<br />
   background: transparent;<br />
   font-weight: bold;<br />
   text-decoration: none;<br />
}</p>
<p>a::after<br />
{<br />
	content: &#8221; (&#8221; attr(href) &#8220;)&#8221;;<br />
	font-size: 90%;<br />
	font-weight: normal;<br />
}</p>
<p>div#content a[href^="/"]:after<br />
{<br />
	content: &#8221; (<a href="http://blaat.com" rel="nofollow">http://blaat.com</a>&#8221; attr(href) &#8220;)&#8221;;<br />
}</p>
<p>abbr,<br />
acronym<br />
{<br />
	border-bottom: none;<br />
	font-variant: normal;<br />
	font-style: italic;<br />
}</p>
<p>abbr:after,<br />
acronym:after<br />
{<br />
	content: &#8221; (&#8221; attr(title) &#8220;)&#8221;;<br />
	font-size: 90%;<br />
	font-style: normal;<br />
}</p>
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		<title>By: Lexx</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2009/sencss/pixel-perfect-forms-sencss-06-released/comment-page-1/#comment-13286</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work Kilian. I agree with you. HTML has to be valid. CSS is a whole different thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work Kilian. I agree with you. HTML has to be valid. CSS is a whole different thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2009/sencss/pixel-perfect-forms-sencss-06-released/comment-page-1/#comment-13123</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use YUI for *all* of my JS and AJAX projects.

I take out the hacks / put them into IE-only stylesheets / etc. Extra stylesheets and conditional comments are better than ignoring validation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use YUI for *all* of my JS and AJAX projects.</p>
<p>I take out the hacks / put them into IE-only stylesheets / etc. Extra stylesheets and conditional comments are better than ignoring validation.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilian Valkhof</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2009/sencss/pixel-perfect-forms-sencss-06-released/comment-page-1/#comment-13120</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilian Valkhof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter, while I am very much inclined to agree with you on a theoretical level, on a pragmatic level, invalid CSS doesn&#039;t matter much (Unlike HTML, it has good error handling). 

I was on the fence about using CSS hacks or not (where the alternative would be having more css files and conditional comments) and then I saw that the YUI css files also use the same hacks. If Yahoo! is fine with it, then I can safely assume it&#039;s stable enough to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter, while I am very much inclined to agree with you on a theoretical level, on a pragmatic level, invalid CSS doesn&#8217;t matter much (Unlike HTML, it has good error handling). </p>
<p>I was on the fence about using CSS hacks or not (where the alternative would be having more css files and conditional comments) and then I saw that the YUI css files also use the same hacks. If Yahoo! is fine with it, then I can safely assume it&#8217;s stable enough to use.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://kilianvalkhof.com/2009/sencss/pixel-perfect-forms-sencss-06-released/comment-page-1/#comment-13118</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Dutch front-end developer I think it is important to write code that validates well. It is nice to get pixelperfect results, but when the code doesn&#039;t pass the css-validator (http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator) it should be rewritten.

The dutch government has some strict guidelines every (government)site has to obey. More information can be found at http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/. It is wise when developing a new css-system to respect these rules. Look at http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/toetsen/report/42320/74835/ what to do to make it pass validation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Dutch front-end developer I think it is important to write code that validates well. It is nice to get pixelperfect results, but when the code doesn&#8217;t pass the css-validator (<a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator" rel="nofollow">http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator</a>) it should be rewritten.</p>
<p>The dutch government has some strict guidelines every (government)site has to obey. More information can be found at <a href="http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/" rel="nofollow">http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/</a>. It is wise when developing a new css-system to respect these rules. Look at <a href="http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/toetsen/report/42320/74835/" rel="nofollow">http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/toetsen/report/42320/74835/</a> what to do to make it pass validation.</p>
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